Stop ignoring this form and give us some feedback. Where is VP for OSX? Are you still planning on releasing it?

Who is ignoring this?

Believe it or not, the VMP for OSX is NOT the most requested or necessary next step for most Viewpoint users and developers. Viewpoint has slated a build for the mid-term future, but in the meanwhile, we need to address the needs and desires of the vast majority of our users and developers. Please hang tight and stay tuned- it's coming!

~Chris

Chris

I'm hanging so tight I can barely breathe... we know that VMP for X is not a high priority - there are probably people out there in the Linux world screaming for their own version too, but most of the marketing and web people I deal with in client organisations are mac based, they see VET as a potentially interesting technology but until they can see the stuff without having to exit their browser , start up classic and go back to where they left off, they are not prepared to buy into it.

I having been using VET on a mac since it was first possible, do all my authoring, coding etc on the mac and in virtual PC. I am so looking forward to not having to use classic again... and the only reason I do use it is.... to look at VET content.

Buy your Mac programmers some nice Christmas presents and jolly them along and we'll all be much happier.

Ok Barnaby,

Very well stated and very persuasive too. I will make sure to pass this on to engineering. You can count on it that when the X plugin is released, it will be of the highest caliber.

~Chris

~Chris

Who is ignoring this? Viewpoint. By basically surfing through the forums with a chip on your shoulder like Mac users are not worth the ground you walk on and we should feel lucky to even be "considered" for a version for X. I said ignored cause I looked at other threads in here asking when it was coming and there were no responses. Your "plug-in" isn't the most difficult thing to code for...I am sure there is more complicated freeware on Apple's OSX download page that was created by a 21 year old. My point? Sh*t or get off the pot cause you will not get any tears from me on how "hard it is or you have other priorities" to get to first. Spend a week and port it to UNIX and BINGO...you have an OSX version. You are not curing Cancer here.

Bodhi,

I know how you feel... VMP for OS X has been a long time coming... situation for OS X users is pretty painful, perhaps only mediated (or made worse) by eg. Cult 3d's equal lack of progress.

Don't think Chris mean't to antagonise things... but I have never known any software company make public statements about when things are going to be released...

...and if you think waiting for VET on X is excrutiating, waiting for Atmosphere is going to be much worse (... guess who's struggling to use Atmosphere in Virtual PC)...

but I'm just a bit of a masochist

Hey,

Like I said, we're addressing it, but it's not the number #1 priority at this time. The reason why? It's because we're dedicated to two things at Viewpoint: 1. creating tools of the highest caliber; 2. creating tools to satisfy the overwhelming majority of our user and developer community. Because of that, we're not going to let a 21 year-old hacker crank out an OSX VMP in a week, as you suggested. At the same time, as I hinted to before, there are more pressing issues in the queue ahead of it- like the tens of millions of new AOL VET users and associated content developers.

Which isn't to say that anyone is downplaying the MAC side of things or ignoring the MAC community. It's simply that in the interest of full disclosure, the answer to your original question remains the same: an OSX plugin is slated- it's in the queue- but a delivery date is NOT slated yet. To claim anything more than that would be dishonest.

Rest assured, we love your passionate desire to see this plugin ship, and we gaurantee that when it does, it will be as good as, if not better than, the PC version.

~Chris

We have the OS X version of the plugin running in an early alpha stage. There is much work to be done, but you can be assured that we have the SDK ported and are working hard on delivering a top quality product. You will not be dissapointed in the results.

Posted on behalf of Blazouf:

No new about VP for OS X..?
I'm planning to switch to Axel but i'm very disapointed because i love the Viewpoint possibilities.. 8-(

Hi Blazouf,

Engineering is working on VMP OSX. We do understand the importance of this to the developer community and the viewing audience.

I wish we had something available to provide you with right now, but sadly that is not the case.

Expect to see something towards the end of Q2.

Cheers, Andrew

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Originally posted by Admin:
Posted on behalf of Blazouf:

No new about VP for OS X..?
I'm planning to switch to Axel but i'm very disapointed because i love the Viewpoint possibilities.. 8-(

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Just wanted to state that out there are more peopling waiting for the OS X release of your plugin!

Yes..
A lot of designer are waiting for the OS X release of your plugin! ;-)

Blazouf

Well, You guys might not be downlplaying the MAc, but you are forgetting one thing. Veiwpoint was mad possible by the Mac. If memory serves, MetaCreations became ViewPoint after it sold off all it's software. The VET format was based off of MetaStream. MetaCreations created MetaStream and most MetaStream projects were initially started on the Mac. It is ironic now that you are alienating your original core users. I relaize you are "working" on it, but openly stating that other issues like AOL and Windows users are a priority is a slap in the face to your original user base...

Just my 2 cents

Did I miss anything. Yes I have been around for quite a while in the Mac world and have many applications from MetaCreations, like Carrara from Eovia, Bryce from Corel, Painter from Corel, and others including ArtMatic buy some old MetaCreations employees. My point is that ALL of these programs now run Native in Mac OSX, as does most Adobe, Microsoft, Corel, Alias/Wavefront, NewTek, Macromedia, and countless other heavy hitters. These are serious apps, allot more complex then a plugin. Get to it folks, you are losing allot of potential customers. Last I checked the Mac still had a significant market share in the new media and publishing arenas!

Hi Paul Guest
I certainly would not say that Viewpoint is alienating Macintosh users. Vewpoint has actually worked diligently to bring the technolgoy to the mac.
Your facts are wrong. The earliest version of Viewpoint Experience Technology was called Pygmalion. It was first shown by John Wilzak, then president of MetaCreations. It ran on a Windows system only. I have a copy of the software (how? ha haa haa!)
That the player runs with near parity between the Mac OS9.x and windows is wonderfully remarkable. Only certain things about the latest Viewpoint Meida Player don't work...but will.

Texture swapping wasn't supposed to work on the Mac, it does, see the 3rd place entrant:
http://developer.viewpoint.com/index1.html?dev&vmp3012contest_results.html

Viewpoint is a publically traded company with responsibilities to its stock holders. You can bet that a business case is developed and reviewed from many perspectives and on a regular basis on all aspects of this company.
That Viewpoint doesn't drop everything else just to focus on OSX shouldn't be insulting to Mac heads. You can't make a business case to justify losing focus on bigger things in hopes that not even 10% of the market is going to raise the VWPT stock to over a dollar.
I am also a Mac head, and a Windows user...my suggestion would be to be patient and spend your time reading the deep amount of documention available. What you learn will be applicable to the Viewpiont Experience...with out regards to Operating System: add layers to your onion without making people cry.

regards
DavidR

Maybe a good surprise for the OS X communitie at the siggraph..?

Last I checked the Mac still had a significant market share in the new media and publishing arenas!

This isn't the case anymore, and besides, why should Viewpoint be concerned with the apple OSX side of things when the vast majority apple developers haven't embraced it...

It's obvious that the squeeky wheel gets the oil, and man are you squeeky.

all i know,
playboy.com should not have switched from quicktime for its zooming ,
VP seems to not be that big of a company to support all the possible users.

OS X OS X OS X OS X OS X OS X OS X!!!!!!
fuk winblows,
mac os ox blows everything away
G5! and PANTHER!!!
woo hooo
keep ur fuken VP,
we dont want ur stinkin HIGHEST CALIBER CRAP

Viewpoint is an excellent program with amazing support, why is everyone so angry? Unless you're selling something with it its free! How nice is that? Every operating system has positives and negatives. If you want something great you might have to make some changes. If I want to do expert video editing I would have to settle for Premiere or After Effects where Final Cut Pro is far superior. You made your choice to buy a Mac, if something isn't available find something else weather it be an operating system or other software.

still its nice to know that intelligent debate is still thriving on the net.

Me, I'm just a little frustrated that VP haven't got the VET player ported to X yet, it is a significant hurdle that if and when overcome will make a big difference for my little business.

I'm waiting for the OS X version too. OS 9 is dead.